Tanking an RfA for WP Adminship

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Tanking an RfA for WP Adminship

Post by Soham321 on Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:28 am

1. Towards the end of my wikipedia career, i participated in an RfA. it was the only RfA i would ever participate in. in this RfA i was partially responsible for tanking the Adminship of someone seeking Admin powers. Major credit for what happened goes to Lourdes. (The opposes came after Lourdes posted his comment; otherwise the candidacy had been cruising.)

2. This is the RfA in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Yash!

3. See Question 9 (framed by me) in the 'Questions for the Candidate' section, and then see Lourdes's comment in the voting section:

Oppose Lack of transparency in nominee's acceptance statement (no concerns with Ritchie's nomination; this would have in all probability escaped him). In connection with Soham321's question above, this edit by Yash! on Yasht101's page may be insightful, especially the edit summary left by him (which I'm not placing here with discretion). This version of the talk page of the other editor Yasht101 has a header that may provide more context. This version of the talk page also has two talk page edits by TheSpecialUser (Yash!'s earlier user name), which beseech Yasht101 to stay back and not retire. This talk page of Yash101 also has edits from around 8 confirmed sock puppet accounts in a period of around 60 days preceding the redirect edit of Yash!.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] Moments after Yash!'s redirect edit, Anna Frodesiak wrote on the talk page of Yasht101 in this diff: "Hi Yash, Glad you're back from your other pseudonym." (I can't make out which pseudonym Anna is referring to) and questions Yash's similarity to two other users "All so similar and wondering why.". Irrespective of the background in all this, I guess Yash! should have been transparent about these issues in his Rfa nomination. They happened many years ago, but it's important for Rfa !voters to know important aspects of the candidate in order to make up their mind. And by explicitly avoiding any mention of this issue, I think I cannot trust the candidate. (Alternatively, all these edits may have a considerably strong logical explanation from Yash!, post which I will change my !vote). Lourdes 03:12, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Beyond My Ken's comment on the RfA was also quite descriptive of what had happened:

Oppose - I'm sorry, but I have to change my vote. After editing as Yasht101 and making edits which they themselves say "were not encyclopedic", the editor creates a new ID ("TheSpecial User") and leaves a comment on Yasht101's talk page [9] that certainly gives the impression that these are two different people, an action which was completely unnecessary (and indeed counter-productive) to a clean start - no message between the accounts was called for or needed to continue editing the encyclopedia. They then change their name to "Yash!", making the connection between the two accounts quite clear. None of this makes any real sense to me, it's either someone playing games, or its someone whose judgment is quite poor, for whatever reason. On that basis alone I would have considered changing my !vote, but the more I read of Yash!'s writing, the more I think that Andrew D.'s concern is a valid one - I don't want an admin adjudicating potentially complex matters who doesn't have a sufficient command of English. Add to that Yash!'s reply to Soham321, and that Yash!'s participation on Wikipedia has fallen off significantly in recent months, and I just cannot bring myself to approve of giving this editor the bit, there are too many negatives, some of which are, in my view, markers for trouble. I regret that I have to change from "Support" to "Oppose". Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:37, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


4. Despite this RfA tanking, Yash's nominator Ritchie333 has not given up. On Yash's talk page, almost immediately after the RfA had tanked, Ritchie333 expressed his intention to nominate Yash again for Adminship and proposed that Lourdes be the co-nominator. Lourdes replied saying it would be "my pleasure" to accept Ritchie's suggestion. See this conversation:

Lourdes: Hello Yash. I am sorry. I hope this is not perceived otherwise...but I just wanted to drop in and apologize for the whole thing and for anything in my remarks that may have been off. I'll drop in an email to you in some time... Sorry again...

Ritchie333: {{ping|Lourdes}} If Yash comes back to Wikipedia, can you be co-nominator on RfA2 around June?

( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yash!&diff=754235348&oldid=754103175 )

Lourdes: Yes of course........ It's very gracious of you to ask and honestly have been feeling like absolutely sick how all this turned out because of me. And I guess you know what I'm thinking about... which is that I don't know if Yash would want me to nom him...or would others who supported him, many of whom have experience years ahead of me. I understand that... But like I said, if Yash or others don't have objection to it, it would be my pleasure. Thanks for being so gracious.


( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yash!&diff=754244427&oldid=754235348

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yash!&diff=754327096&oldid=754256989 )

5. The reason why Lourdes immediately accepted senior Admin Ritchie333's suggestion (which was made immediately after the RfA tanked) of being Yash's co-nominator in another attempt to make Yash an Admin after a few months have elapsed may have been because Lourdes is angling for a WP Adminship himself. Otherwise I would have thought that Yash's behavior had disqualified him from being an Admin for the foreseeable future.

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